Last Wednesday, UNICEF Canada reported that the infant mortality rate across Canadian First Nations reserves is up to seven times higher than among the general population.

While some of those statistics may indeed reflect a lesser access to health services some of the blame must go to poor parenting.

Now residents of Six Nations want to remove the native branch of the Children’s Aid Society. They claim that it is “hurting kids having them removed from their families.”

What is wrong with this picture?

blog guy said:
"While some of those statistics may indeed reflect a lesser access to health services some of the blame must go to poor parenting."

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems you are saying, Native = Poor Parenting. How racist!

Child neglect and abuse does not know race, religion or sex. A native child deserves and needs the same protection as the rest of Canada's children.

There are horrific stories of children being neglected and abused within the SN communities. Most of it is alcohol related.

Anyone with a thinking rational mind can see that we need the same laws regarding children enforced within native communities that the rest of Canada's parents face.

When you have falling down drunken parents the children MUST be removed from that environment until the parents get their act together. This applies to all people across this country.

If the parents do not love their children enough to get help so they can actually parent, I say remove them permanently.

If that office is removed or 'changed' to skirt around child abuse and neglect on reserves, that would be the biggest black mark on this province and country in our history.

Poor parenting is everywhere! Not just on reservations. What is hurting children more...removing them from bad situations or keeping them there. CAS doesn't remove children just for something to do there is a reason!

Leasa - as a spokesperson for Diane Finley and the Conservative party I am ashamed of you and your party. Your comments show a level of intolerance and a lack of understanding which is not only completely unacceptable, but very un-Canadian.

Here, here Leasa well said.

I am also glad that everyone except the person set out to specifically to criticize BigGuy agrees to this.

I wouldn't tie it to drinking specifically, but general neglect and abuse (often caused by drinking).

To remove this would be a pox on our society. If other members of the community are calling these complaints in...the community must endorse the CAS to some degree.

This is off topic...but Karl CD98 rightfully discourages name calling, so therefore out of respect to the rules, I will not publicly call you an idiot on this fine forum. ;)

Is Karl blog guy in drag?

I agree with Leasa..if ANY child is being neglected or abused then it is CAS' duty to remove them until the parents get their act together and if they do not, then those children need to be removed permanently no matter if they are on the SN or not. When it comes to the safety of children, any petition should be thrown out. It's probably the residents that have had to have their children removed at one time or another or continually for that matter due to neglecting or abusing them that started the petition in the first place.

Also, Karl, I think you should ask Diane Finlay's permission before you start speaking for her.

Karl, I completely agree with you.

Shame on you Leasa. There is hardly a louder Conservative mouthpiece in this forum (nor one who engages in more name calling). If I were a Tory supporter (thank GOODNESS I'm not!), I'd be appalled that you represent my political stripe. You've stepped way over the boundaries here.

Bigotry and racisim......Leasa, you really need to educate yourself. Shame on you.

From what I read on this Board, the Speller/Iggnatief position is:

*take the CAS off the Reserve and let the children suffer;
*give EI to ALL unemployed no matter whether they paid into the program or not;
*reduce the eligibility period for EI to LESS than 10 weeks in a year;
*bring in a "green" CARBON TAX;
*criticize every dollar given by the Conservatives to Haldimand-Norfolk as being "too little, too late".
*will NOT support the most recent EI proposed changes even though they are O.K. for the NDP.

Recognizing that the Liberal supporters will post the Conservative agenda (as they see it), perhaps they will amend/correct their position so we are all clear on where they stand.

Good God, people. How did a story on CAS, a provincially-run organization, turn into more useless partisan comments? Get a grip.

"Bigotry and racisim......Leasa, you really need to educate yourself. Shame on you."

yes, the truth is 'Racist'. The truth is 'Bigotry'.

You know you've won the argument when the hand-wringers trot out these tired ad-hom attacks...

It's all they have. Cannot dicuss anything rationally - just cry 'racism' and that's the end
of the discussion.

It's a tired ploy meant to stifle discussion.

Not that you can or will answer this, but what exactly did I say that you disagree with and think is bigoted or racist? Do you not agree as an obvious 'liberal supporter' that ALL children deserve to be safe and cared for? In order to disagree with what I have said here (if you even bothered to actually read the post) you would have to be saying that in fact you do not think native children are worthy of protection and care.

I added the 'liberal supporter' because even though this topic and my post had absolutely nothing to do with politics you attacked me as a 'Conservative mouth-piece'. Where did that come from?

Unless, someone has told you that Leasa must be discredited at all costs, your ranting makes no sense with the context of this thread. I guess Bobby's people are getting worried.

Shame on you for using a topic about child safety and making it a forum for your political cause.

Dustin, MT100 and Bugbuster. I can't decide if you are posters of the exact opposite political stripe trying to make 'your side' appear stupid, or if you are actually stupid.

Not everything has to be partisan, not everyone needs to be attacked.

I would just suggest to people to simply consider these posters as disturbers, with no actual thoughts other than sitting back and making people cringe. Just skip over their responses.

I'd also suggest that they are not supporters of one party, but simply haters of a chosen party. Nothing constructive comes out of their, likely, unco-ordinated fingers.

It is people like them that make me worry for democracy :)

HOO BOY! It,,s gotta be a full moon!